{"id":165,"date":"2009-11-08T20:54:41","date_gmt":"2009-11-09T00:54:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dovweinstock.com\/blog\/?page_id=165"},"modified":"2009-11-08T20:54:41","modified_gmt":"2009-11-09T00:54:41","slug":"kol-beisha-erva-english","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.dovweinstock.com\/blog\/kol-beisha-erva-english\/","title":{"rendered":"Kol BeIsha Erva &#8211; English"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>A New Analysis of \u201cKol B\u2019Isha Erva\u201d (the voice of a woman is nakedness)<\/h1>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>HaRav David Bigman<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Trans. Yedidya Schwartz<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"MsoSubtitle\">There is no prohibition whatsoever of innocent singing; rather, only singing intended for sexual stimulation, or flirtatious singing, is forbidden. Although this distinction is not explicit in the early rabbinic sources, it closely fits the character of the prohibition as described in different contexts in the Talmud and the Rishonim, and it is supported by the language of the Rambam, the Tur, and the Shulchan Arukh.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">8\/4\/2008<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">Q: We have a practice in our school, in ceremonies organized for various events, that a female student sings as part of the ceremony. Is this practice halakhically acceptable?<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">A: The issue of \u201cKol B\u2019Isha Erva\u201d (the voice of a woman is nakedness) is discussed extensively in many contexts, mainly in the responsa of the great rabbinic figures of the past generation. Even, so this issue has not been discussed in relation to communities that already have an established practice of leniency and allowance of women to sing publicly. The premises of this responsum will be thus:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>A)<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>The tradition of the poskim (halakhic arbiters) of examining existing practices and investigating whether the community has legal ground on which to stand.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>B)<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>The assertion of the Maharshal, (accepted as practical halakha) that psychological and spiritual need is considered an important concern that justifies reliance upon a lone or minority halakhic opinion. And according to reliable accounts, there are women in certain communities who are so offended by the ruling forbidding them to sing in public that they turn away from the Torah and commandments due to it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">We will investigate the topic of \u201cKol B\u2019Isha\u201d according to its principal sources. For clarity\u2019s sake, these sources will be investigated topically, without tangential digressions, and not in chronological order.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><strong>What is the subject of the original saying \u201cthe voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em> (nakedness, lewdness, or sexual impropriety)\u201d?<\/strong><strong><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">The Talmud in Masekhet Berakhot 24a relates:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span>Rabbi Yitzchak said: \u201cA handbreadth of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>.\u201d With respect to what [does it constitute <em>erva<\/em>]? If we should say that it is for looking [at a woman], had not Rav Sheshet said: \u201cWhy does the scripture list the outer adornments together with inner adornments? To teach us: anyone who looks at even the little finger of a woman is as if he were looking at her genitalia!\u201d Rather, it refers to his wife, and for the recitation of Shema.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">As is often the case with the Oral Torah, there is almost no word in this passage that has not merited much interpretation. For clarity\u2019s sake we will deal only with the interpretations that are important to the halakhic issue at hand.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">The Talmud presents Rav Sheshet\u2019s statement as opposed to that of Rabbi Yitzchak, thus creating a conflict between the two statements. The Talmud resolves this by claiming that the statement \u201cthe handbreadth of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>\u201d was said only in the context of the recitation of the Shema: it is forbidden to recite the Shema in the presence of a women who has a handbreadth of customarily covered flesh exposed, and this ruling applies even to one\u2019s own wife. In contrast to this, the words of Rav Sheshet \u2013 that one must not look for pleasure<a name=\"_ftnref1\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn1\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[1]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> at even the little finger of a woman \u2013 are meant to apply in general circumstances. Even though it would have been possible to explain Rav Sheshet\u2019s statement as a simple moral injunction, the Talmud in Masekhet Avoda Zara defines it as a prohibition of looking at a woman in an inappropriate way.<a name=\"_ftnref2\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn2\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[2]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> Thus, the statement of Rav Sheshet finds its way to the Rambam, the <em>Tur<\/em>, and the <em>Shulchan Arukh<\/em> as practical halakha \u2013 there is even a disagreement among the poskim as to whether the prohibition is <em>deoraita<\/em> (biblical) or <em>derabanan<\/em> (rabbinic).<a name=\"_ftnref3\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn3\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[3]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">The next section of the Talmud leads to differences of opinion among the Rishonim, as it is unclear with regard to what context the following sayings are presented:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span>Rav Hisda said: \u201cThe shin of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, as it is said: (Isaiah 47) \u2018Bare your shin, wade through the rivers,\u2019 and it is written: (ibid.) \u2018Your nakedness shall be uncovered\u2019 and your shame shall be exposed.\u2019\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span>Shmuel said: \u201cThe voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, as it is said: (Song of Songs 2) \u2018For your voice is sweet and your face is comely\u2019\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span>Rav Sheshet said: \u201cThe hair of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, as it is said: (Song of Songs 4) \u201cYour hair is like a flock of goats.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">After the Talmud has suggested a different context for each of the two opening, \u201cconflicting,\u201d statements of the previous section, it is difficult to ascertain to which context it is appropriate to attribute these following statements. The saying that is relevant to our discussion is that of Shmuel: \u201cThe voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref4\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn4\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[4]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> Does this refer to the specific, narrow prohibition regarding the proper recitation of the Shema, or is it a broader prohibition similar to that of inappropriate glances? A third possibility is that the relegation of the prior statements to their specific contexts was simply due to the Talmud\u2019s need to resolve seemingly competing statements, and that Shmuel\u2019s statement can therefore be applied to both domains.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">All of these interpretive options are raised by the Rishonim and the Acharonim:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">HaRav Yitzchak MiVienna, the author of the <em>Or Zarua<\/em>, holds that \u201cKol B\u2019Isha\u201d applies, like the prohibition of gazing at women, only in general circumstances, and has no bearing whatsoever on the recitation of Shema.<a name=\"_ftnref5\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn5\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[5]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> This also seems to be the opinion of the Rashba in his <em>Chidushim<\/em>,<a name=\"_ftnref6\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn6\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[6]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> as well as the stance of the Rosh: \u201cShmuel said: \u2018The voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, as it says \u201cfor your voice is sweet and your face is comely\u201d\u2019 \u2013 to listen to, <em>and not with regard to the recitation of the Shema<\/em>.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref7\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn7\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[7]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">This also seems to be the position of the Rambam in the <em>Mishneh Torah<\/em>:<span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span lang=\"HE\"><span> <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\">\u201cAnd it is forbidden for a man to \u2018wink\u2019 using his hands or his feet, or to hint with his eyes at a woman forbidden to him, or to joke with her or to act light-headedly, and even to smell the perfume she is wearing or to look at her beauty is forbidden, and willful violators are to be beaten as upstarts. And he who looks at even the little finger of a woman to take pleasure in it is like one who looks at her genitalia, and <em>even to hear a voice of an erva<\/em> or to see her hair is forbidden.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref8\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn8\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[8]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">From the equation of the prohibitions regarding voice and hair to the general prohibition of looking, we can infer that their presence does not necessarily imply sexual stimulation \u2013 rather, what is problematic is the inappropriate interaction with them by the looker or the listener. Therefore, in the laws of the recitation of the Shema, the Rambam does not list the voice of woman as one of those things that detract from the proper recitation of the Shema: \u201cAnd the whole body of a woman is counted as <em>erva<\/em>; therefore, he should not look at the body of a woman when he is reciting; even if it were his wife and even if only a handbreadth of her were exposed, he should not recite in her presence.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref9\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn9\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[9]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">The <em>Tur<\/em> as well ruled, in accordance with the Rambam, that \u201cKol B\u2019Isha\u201d is limited to the topic of general modesty: \u201cand it is forbidden to listen to a voice of <em>erva<\/em>,\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref10\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn10\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[10]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> making no mention of a connection to the recitation of the Shema.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">In contrast to this, the Raavya rules, in accordance with precedent opinions, that the central prohibition of \u201cKol B\u2019Isha\u201d specifically regards the recitation of Shema.<a name=\"_ftnref11\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn11\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[11]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span>This is also the opinion of the Ritva in his <em>Chidushim<\/em> on Masekhet Berakhot. This position can be supported by the stylistic similarity of Shmuel\u2019s statement to the first statement \u201ca handbreadth of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>,\u201d which is relegated by the Talmud itself to the topic of the recitation of the Shema. We find a similar (though somewhat broadened) ruling in the Mordechai, who states that not just the recitation of the Shema, but even learning Torah is forbidden in the presence of a woman singing:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span>It is prohibited to recite the Shema in the presence of an unclothed non-Jew, and it also says in the Talmud that a handbreadth of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, even his wife, meaning a handbreadth of flesh that is customarily covered, and likewise the shin and voice of a woman are <em>erva<\/em>. And Rav Hai Gaon explained that <em>this is all with regard to the recitation of Shema<\/em>. And Rabbi Eliezer from Mitz wrote in <em>Sefer HaYireim<\/em>: \u201cTherefore it is forbidden to perform the core parts of communal prayer while listening to the voice of a woman singing, but due to our sins we are settled among the nations in a condition of imperfect observance, and therefore <em>we are not careful not to learn Torah in the presence of non-Jewish women singing<\/em>,\u201d and so ruled the author of <em>Halakhot Gedolot<\/em>, and so ruled Rabbenu Hananel\u2026\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref12\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn12\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[12]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">Rabbi Yosef Karo rules in the <em>Shulchan Arukh<\/em> according to the opinion of the Rambam in the <em>Mishneh Torah<\/em> that we should understand the Shmuel\u2019s statement in the broader sense: \u201cand it is prohibited to listen to a voice of <em>erva<\/em>\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref13\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn13\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[13]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> and he even<span> <\/span>rules<span> <\/span>to be stringent on the issue of the recitation of Shema as well: \u201cOne must be careful not to listen to the voice of a woman singing while reciting the Shema,\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref14\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn14\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[14]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> and this ruling is in concert<span> <\/span>with his words in his magnum opus, the <em>Beit Yosef<\/em>: \u201cAnd with regard to the halakha, it seems that we side with the Rambam, but it is in any event good to be cautious before the fact not to see hair and hear the voice of a woman singing during the recitation of Shema.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref15\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn15\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[15]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">In summary: there is a fundamental dispute among the Rishonim. Important Rishonim held that the main prohibition of listening to a woman\u2019s voice is only during the recitation of the Shema and other core parts of the prayer service, in accordance with the intuitive context of Shmuel\u2019s statement \u201cthe voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>.\u201d In contrast to this approach, other Rishonim held that the prohibition is analogous to that of looking at a woman, though it is still appropriate to be stringent with regard to the recitation of the Shema as well.<a name=\"_ftnref16\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn16\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[16]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><strong>What manner of a woman\u2019s voice is considered <em>erva<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">The poskim that hold that it is forbidden to hear the voice of a woman in general, and not just during the recitation of the Shema and the core parts of prayer, are divided as to what type of voice is prohibited \u2013 is<span> <\/span>it forbidden only to hear a singing voice, or is listening to common speech proscribed as well? And what about a singing voice that people are already used to? Is every type of singing voice prohibited? Let us begin this discussion with a disagreement between the Rashba and the Raavad described by the Rashba himself:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span>And the fact that Rav Yitzchak said that a handbreadth of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, and that we hold that this applies to his wife during the recitation of Shema, the Raavad of blessed memory explained that it is possible that this refers to a normally covered part of her body, and Rabbenu Chananel commented on this, saying that the shin of a woman is a normally covered and sexually provocative part of the body, even to her husband, and even though it is not normally covered on men, but her face and hands and feet and the non-singing voice of her speech, and her hair that comes out of her braid that is not covered, one need not worry about these as he is used to them and not disturbed. And with regard to another woman, it is forbidden to look at anything, even her little finger and hair, and it is forbidden even to hear her speak, as we say we say in Masekhet Kiddushin: \u201c\u2019let your honor send a salutation to Yalta [Rabbi Nachman\u2019s wife]!\u2019 He said to him: \u2018thus said Shmuel: \u201cthe voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>.\u201d\u2019\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref17\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn17\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[17]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> And nevertheless it seems to me that this refers specifically to the voice of a salutation, because there is intimacy in it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">It is important to pay attention to the fact that even the Rashba did not prohibit hearing all speech of a woman, rather only speech that has \u201cintimacy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">In any event, his position is not ruled as halakha by the <em>Shulchan Arukh<\/em>: \u201c<em>one must guard against hearing the voice of a woman singing<\/em>.\u201d Even though this is said specifically in reference to the recitation of the Shema, the <em>Magen Avraham<\/em> applies it to general rules of modesty as well: \u201c\u2019The singing voice of a woman\u2019 \u2013 Even an unmarried woman, and see the <em>Even HaEzer<\/em> 21, which states that the singing voice of a married woman<a name=\"_ftnref18\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn18\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[18]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> is always forbidden to hear, but the voice of her speech is permitted.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref19\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn19\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[19]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> The Maharshal had already asserted that there is no prohibition of listening to a woman\u2019s speech:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\">And that which it says that the voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, meaning that it is forbidden to speak with a woman, as Rashi explained, that if I should say hello, she would answer me \u2013 this seems to me to be strained, for they <em>only prohibited listening to a singing voice<\/em>, as the scriptures say (Song of Songs, 2): \u201c<span>For your voice is sweet and your face is comely.\u201d Also, we do not find that the original great sages were careful not to converse with women, as we see from several instances in the Talmud and other works not referenced here. Rather one should not ask a woman how she is doing out of a sense of intimacy. And we do not hold according to Rabbi Eliyahu Mizrachi, who forbids talking to women, even to ask her where her husband is, and I have already proved that his position is false, see in the chapter \u201cHasocher et Hapoalim,\u201d Siman 6, and the ruling that one does not use a woman at all, adult or child, we shall write, God willing, ahead in Siman 80, that nowadays we rely on the opinion opposed to Shmuel, that said that everything done for Heaven\u2019s sake is permitted.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref20\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn20\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[20]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\"><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">This explanation of the poskim, that the voice prohibited because it might lead to immodest behavior is that of song, is supported explicitly in the Talmud in Masekhet Sota: \u201cRav Yosef said: \u2018when men sing and women respond \u2013 it is immodest; when women sing and men respond \u2013 it is like a fire in chaff.\u2019 What is the practical difference? That one should abolish the one before the other.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref21\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn21\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[21]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">Rashi explains:<\/p>\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\"><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\">\u201cLike a fire in chaff\u201d \u2013 because the responder pays special attention to hear the singer, and consequently the men will pay attention to the women\u2019s singing, and the voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, as it is written: \u201c<span>let me hear your voice\u201d (Song of Songs, 2), and it will fire his evil inclination like a fire in chaff. But when men sing and women respond, there is a little immodesty, as the voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em> but it does not fire his evil inclination to the same extent, because the singers to not pay such close attention to hearing the responders.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\"><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">From the words of the Marshal and the <em>Magen Avraham<\/em>, we can understand that there is a prohibition of listening to the voice of a woman singing; given this, the poskim advise several dimensions that allow us to be lenient in various ways:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><strong><span><span>A)<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><strong>Everything here refers only to a lone voice and not to song in a group, as \u201ctwo voices are not heard.\u201d <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">This distinction is widely accepted among different groups within the community, and it is therefore the custom to permit women\u2019s singing in a choir. This dispensation is extremely strained, alien to the character of the subject, and transferred from an altogether different context \u2013 hearing the sound of a shofar on Rosh Hashanah.<a name=\"_ftnref22\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn22\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[22]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> Rabbi Yechiel Weinberg has already raised a serious difficulty on this avenue: \u201cWith regard to what is written that two voices are not heard, is it not explicit in the Talmud that because it is pleasant to listen to, one would pay more attention? And nothing is more pleasant to listen to than what our sages attested to, that the voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, from the verse \u201c<span>For your voice is sweet and your face is comely,\u201d see Berakhot 24.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref23\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn23\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[23]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><strong><span><span>B)<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><strong><span>The prohibition applies only to listening in a manner similar to looking at a woman for sexual pleasure.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span>This distinction can be taken from a simple reading of all the material related to the subject, from the language of the Rishonim and the ruling of the <em>Beit Yosef<\/em> about them, although it is not stated specifically. According to this approach, my teacher, Rabbi Aaron Soloveitchik, ruled that there was no problem in public song when we, his young male students, were participating in the singing. Rabbi Aaron did not permit listening to women by themselves, even in a group, but at the heart of his position was the equation to the prohibition of looking, and the distinction between staring for sexual pleasure and general, innocent sight \u2013 and the difference is clear.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><strong><span><span>C)<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><strong>There is no prohibition whatsoever of innocent singing; rather, only forbidden is singing intended for sexual stimulation, or flirtatious singing. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">Although this distinction is not explicit in the early rabbinic sources, it closely fits the character of the prohibition as described in different contexts in the Talmud and the Rishonim, and it is supported by the language of the Rambam, the Tur, and the Shulchan Arukh: \u201cit is forbidden to hear a voice of <em>erva<\/em>\u201d as opposed to language forbidding song generally.<a name=\"_ftnref24\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn24\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[24]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> (Even according to the most correct reading of the text of the Rambam \u2013 \u201cto hear the voice of <em>a forbidden woman<\/em> or to see her hair,\u201d the word <em>erva<\/em> referring to the woman herself \u2013 the distinction is still supported by the context and the Rambam\u2019s general sense.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">The two latter distinctions are necessary, for they solve a difficulty in the language of the Beit Yosef: \u201cAnd with regard to the halakha, it seems that we side with the Rambam, but it is, in any event, good to be cautious before the fact not to see hair and hear the voice of a woman singing during the recitation of Shema.\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref25\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn25\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[25]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">This language is strange. If a general prohibition already exists on hearing a woman singing, the soft language \u201cbut it is in any event good to be cautious before the fact\u201d with regard to the recitation of the Shema is inappropriate. However, if we interpret this position in accordance with the <em>Tur<\/em> (Even HaEzer, Siman 21) that this is with regard to problematic listening and problematic singing, we can understand the language of Rav Karo that during the recitation of the Shema one should \u201cbe cautious before the fact not to\u2026hear the voice of a woman singing.\u201d It is appropriate to be careful during the recitation of Shema not to hear <em>any<\/em> singing of a woman, <em>even that which is not problematic from the perspective of modesty<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">These two latter distinctions are brought in the <em>Sedei Chemed<\/em> in the name of the <em>Divrei Chefetz<\/em>,<a name=\"_ftnref26\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn26\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[26]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> and were criticized by Rabbi A. D. Horowitz in a letter to Rabbi Yechiel Weinberg:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\">And as for what the <em>Sedei Chemed<\/em> said in the name of the <em>Divrei Chefetz<\/em> \u2013 firstly, the <em>Sedei Chemed<\/em> writes that is correct to act stringently, despite his opinion, and besides this, did not the <em>Sedei Chemed<\/em> write explicitly: \u201conly one who does not intend to gain pleasure from her voice?\u201d In that case, who can be responsible for monitoring such a thing? And also, what he writes in a letter that in religious singing the young men do not intend to benefit from the voice of the young women \u2013 it is a painful joke to say this, and it is easy for his venerable learnedness to say this in his old age (may he live long) (see the Tosafot on Masekhet Sota 19a, s.v. &#8220;Vekhohen,&#8221; referencing the Talmud Yerushalmi, about an old priest). Does it not say in the Talmud, Masekhet Niddah, 13a, to the effect that in fear and trembling there is no suspicion of sinful fantasy \u2013 and even there the <em>Beit Yosef <\/em>wrote in Orach Chaim, Siman 3, that the poskim left this out, as they could not be sure, and all depends on one\u2019s personal character\u2026\u201d<a name=\"_ftnref27\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn27\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[27]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">We should pay attention to the fact that although Rabbi Horowitz\u2019s criticism of our latter distinctions (that the only prohibition is that of listening for pleasure, and that we need not worry about religious singing) is quite strong, there is still no claim of a formal prohibition on all song, rather a concern that these distinctions would be difficult to implement in reality: There is no possibility, according to this approach, that we will<span> <\/span>avoid all \u201cexceptions\u201d, and that we will<span> <\/span>ensure that everyone will be listening innocently, and we must assume that there will always be some of the<span> <\/span>listening to women will be problematic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">It seems to me that specifically these distinctions are the most appropriate to our circumstances, and that it is relatively easy to implement them. I have been asked for practical advice many times by students who have long been used to hearing female singers, and only discovered the halakhic problems with this after they had acquired a broader Torah knowledge. I always ask them how they react to the women\u2019s singing, and without exception they claim that the song does not arouse them unless it is intended to. Songs with this intention are characterized by their lyrics, melody, musical style, dress and body language. In communities that have the practice of permitting women\u2019s singing in serious ceremonies (even if this practice developed unintentionally) even those who wish to change the practice do not claim that the music arouses them, rather they think that there is a formal prohibition on all female singing. We are therefore witnesses to the fact that there is problematic singing, and there is singing that is entirely non-problematic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">It is likely that the stringent approach of Rabbi A. D. Horowitz can be explained by the Raavya, who considers the matter dependent on acclimation, and if so, even if groups within a certain community can be justifiably lenient, this possibility is not open to every community:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\">It is ruled in <em>Halakhot Gedolot<\/em> that all that we say here, that a handbreadth of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, even if she is his wife, and with regard to another woman, even something smaller than a handbreadth, and likewise the shin of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>, and likewise the hair of a woman is <em>erva<\/em> [and likewise the voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>] \u2013 for all of these things it is forbidden to recite the Shema in their presence, and so explains Rabbenu Chananel. And I say that the reason for this is that even though the voice is not visible to the eye, there is nevertheless cause sexual fantasies. And all of the things [that we have related above] as <em>erva<\/em> only refer to things that are not customarily exposed. But we do not worry about an unmarried woman who regularly leaves her hair uncovered, because this does not cause fantasies, and so too with her voice [that he is used to].<a name=\"_ftnref28\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn28\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[28]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ExtendedQuote\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">In light of the fundamental disagreement among the Rishonim and the interpretations offered of the ruling of the <em>Shulchan Aruch<\/em>, we can summarize:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>\u00b7<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>It is permitted to be lenient with regard to listening to the voice of a woman singing when there is a clear sense that the listening is innocent and the singing is innocent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">Such an assessment is dependent on five conditions:<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>1.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>Context and appropriate atmosphere<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>2.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>The lyrics of the song<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>3.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>The musical style<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>4.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>Dress<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>5.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>Body language<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">According to this approach, there is no problem with those among our daughters who are modest and upstanding to develop a career in singing, even within the general culture, as long as they do not make concessions of the refined foundations of Torah culture, and do not cooperate with the vulgar, commercialized aspects of the culture surrounding us. In an approach that is not accepted as halakha, the <em>Sefer Hachasidim<\/em> held that there is a parallel prohibition on women to listen to the voices of men.<a name=\"_ftnref29\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftn29\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[29]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> Even though this is not practiced halakha, it is ideal to pay attention to the five conditions I have outlined even in the case of a man singing in the presence of women.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\"><span><span>\u00b7<span> <\/span><\/span><\/span>The dispensation for two or more voices is far-fetched and should not be relied upon alone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NoSpacing\">In practice, when we rely upon this dispensation alone, there are many pitfalls. It seems that we have found a simple, easy answer, and we need not worry about the lyrics, or the melody, or the musical style, or the dress or body language, and in reality this sometimes creates a culture unbefitting the spirit of the Torah.<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div id=\"ftn1\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn1\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref1\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[1]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> The Rishonim write about looking for pleasure, or sexually inappropriate looking, and distinguish between this type of gazing and \u201csight.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn2\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><a name=\"_ftn2\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref2\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[2]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"HE\"> &#8220;<\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0\u05e1\u05ea\u05db\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05e8\u05d9? \u05de\u05d9\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9: \u05d5\u05e0\u05e9\u05de\u05e8\u05ea \u05de\u05db\u05dc \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8 \u05e8\u05e2 (\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05db\u05d2)<span> <\/span>&#8211; \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05e1\u05ea\u05db\u05dc \u05d0\u05d3\u05dd \u05d1\u05d0\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e0\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d5\u05d0\u05e4\u05d9\u05dc\u05d5 \u05e4\u05e0\u05d5\u05d9\u05d4, \u05d1\u05d0\u05e9\u05ea \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9 \u05d5\u05d0\u05e4\u05d9\u05dc\u05d5 \u05de\u05db\u05d5\u05e2\u05e8\u05ea&#8221; (\u05e2\u05d1\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d6\u05e8\u05d4, \u05d3\u05e3 \u05db, \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0).<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn3\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn3\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref3\"><\/a><span><span> <\/span><\/span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[3]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3, \u05d0\u05d1\u05df \u05d4\u05e2\u05d6\u05e8,<span> <\/span>\u05e1\u05d9&#8217; \u05db&#8221;\u05d0<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn4\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn4\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref4\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[4]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> Every statement in this passage deserves its own discussion, as they each have unique characteristics and their own parallel passages.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn5\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><a name=\"_ftn5\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref5\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[5]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"HE\"> &#8220;&#8216;\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 (\u05e8\u05d1 \u05e9\u05e9\u05ea) [\u05e9\u05de\u05d5\u05d0\u05dc] &#8220;\u05e7\u05d5\u05dc \u05d1\u05d0\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05d4 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d0&#8217; \u05db\u05d9 \u05e7\u05d5\u05dc\u05da \u05e2\u05e8\u05d1 \u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d0\u05da \u05e0\u05d0\u05d5\u05d4&#8221;&#8216;. \u05dc\u05d0\u05d5 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e0\u05d9\u05df \u05e7&#8221;\u05e9 \u05d0\u05d9\u05ea\u05de\u05e8 \u05d3\u05d4\u05d9\u05d0 \u05d2\u05d5\u05e4\u05d4 \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d0 <span> <\/span>\u05e7&#8221;\u05e9:&#8221; \u05e1\u05e4\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d6\u05e8\u05d5\u05e2, \u05d7&#8221;\u05d0 &#8211; \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05ea \u05e7\u05e8\u05d9\u05d0\u05ea \u05e9\u05de\u05e2 \u05d5\u05ea\u05e4\u05d9\u05dc\u05d4, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e7\u05dc\u05d2<\/span><span lang=\"HE\">. \u05d5\u05db\u05df \u05db\u05ea\u05d1 \u05d2\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05d7\u05dd &#8211; \u05ea\u05d5\u05dc\u05d3\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0\u05d3\u05dd \u05d5\u05d7\u05d5\u05d4, \u05e0\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1 \u05d2, \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d3, \u05d3\u05e3 \u05db&#8221;\u05d4, \u05d8\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d3.<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn6\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn6\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref6\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[6]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05d7\u05d9\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9\u05d9 \u05d4\u05e8\u05e9\u05d1&#8221;\u05d0, \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea, \u05d3\u05e3 \u05db&#8221;\u05d3, \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0, \u05d3&#8221;\u05d4: &#8220;\u05d5\u05d4\u05d0 \u05d3\u05d0\u05de\u05e8 \u05e8\u05d1 \u05d9\u05e6\u05d7\u05e7&#8221;<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn7\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn7\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref7\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[7]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05e8\u05d0&#8221;\u05e9, \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea, \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d2,<strong> <\/strong>\u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05dc&#8221;\u05d6<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn8\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn8\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref8\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[8]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d4, \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db&#8221;\u05d0,<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"> \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d1<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn9\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn9\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref9\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[9]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> <span><span> <\/span><\/span>(<span lang=\"HE\">\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd, \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05e7\u05e8\u05d9\u05d0\u05ea \u05e9\u05de\u05e2, \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d2, \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d8&#8221;\u05d6<\/span>) This inference was also drawn by the <em>Beit Yosef <\/em>(<span lang=\"HE\">\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4<\/span>): \u201cAnd this is the language of the Rambam in Chapter Three of the Laws of the Recitation of the Shema: \u2018And the whole body of a woman is counted as <em>erva<\/em>; therefore, he should not look at the body of a woman when he is reciting; even if it were his wife and even if only a handbreadth of her were exposed, he should not recite in her presence\u2019 \u2013 this is his language. And he left out \u2018voice\u2019 and \u2018hair\u2019 because he is of the opinion that these were said with regard to general looking and listening, and not about the recitation of the Shema, just as the Rosh wrote about \u2018voice.\u2019 And he made sure to write \u2018if only a handbreadth of her were exposed\u2019 to hint at what explains further on, that her hands and face and any place that is not normally covered is permitted [to look upon], as it is meaningless to say \u2018exposed\u2019 about anything but that which is normally covered. And with regard to the halakha, it seems that we side with the Rambam, but it is in any event good to be cautious before the fact not to see hair and hear the voice of a woman singing during the recitation of Shema.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">The Rambam, in a responsum mentions a broad prohibition of women\u2019s singing: \u201cand if the singer is a woman, there is a fifth prohibition, as they said (<span lang=\"HE\">\u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea, \u05db&#8221;\u05d3, \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0<\/span>) \u2018the voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>,\u2019 and even more so if she is singing (<span lang=\"HE\">\u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05d4\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e8\u05db&#8221;\u05d3<\/span>).<span> <span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn10\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn10\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref10\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[10]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05d8\u05d5\u05e8, \u05d0\u05d1\u05df \u05d4\u05e2\u05d6\u05e8, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05db&#8221;\u05d0<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn11\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn11\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref11\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[11]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span>(<\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05e8\u05d0\u05d1\u05d9&#8221;\u05d4, \u05d7&#8221;\u05d0 &#8211; \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e2&#8221;\u05d5<\/span><span>); quoted at the bottom of page 7.<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn12\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn12\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref12\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[12]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05de\u05e8\u05d3\u05db\u05d9, \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea, \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 &#8220;\u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05de\u05ea\u05d5,&#8221; \u05e8\u05de\u05d6 \u05e4<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn13\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn13\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref13\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[13]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da, \u05d0\u05d1\u05df \u05d4\u05e2\u05d6\u05e8, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05db&#8221;\u05d0, \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn14\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn14\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref14\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[14]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da, \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4, \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d2<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn15\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn15\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref15\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[15]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><span> <\/span>\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3, \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn16\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn16\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref16\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[16]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> <span><span> <\/span><\/span>In the interest of objectivity, it should be pointed out that the Rif overlooks the subject entirely.<span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn17\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn17\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref17\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[17]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> So that the reader might appreciate the justice of the Maharshal\u2019s defense of the position of the Raavad and the other poskim against that of the Rashba (related below), we will quote the Talmudic passage in full:<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">\u201c\u2026He said to him \u2018thus said Shmuel: \u201cone may not make use of a woman.\u201d\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">\u2018But she is a child!\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">\u2018Shmuel said explicitly: \u201cone does not make use of a woman at all, child or adult.\u201d\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">\u2018Then let your honor send a salutation to Yalta!\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">He said to him \u2018thus said Shmuel: \u201cthe voice of a woman is <em>erva<\/em>.\u201d\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">\u2018Perhaps by way of a messenger?\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">He said to him \u2018thus said Shmuel: \u201cone should not make a salutation to a woman.\u201d\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">\u2018But he is her husband!\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\">He said to him \u2018thus said Shmuel: \u201cone should not make a salutation to a woman under any circumstances\u201d\u2019\u2026\u201d (<span lang=\"HE\">\u05ea\u05dc\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1\u05d1\u05dc\u05d9, \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05e7\u05d9\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9\u05d9\u05df, \u05d3\u05e3 \u05e2, \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0<\/span><span>).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn18\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn18\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref18\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[18]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> According to the language of the <em>Magen Avraham<\/em>, it seems that the only prohibition is regarding a married woman, and not a single woman who he may marry. The poskim discussed this question too at great length<span lang=\"HE\">:<\/span> (<span lang=\"HE\">\u05e8\u05d0\u05d4 <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05e6\u05d9\u05e5 \u05d0\u05dc\u05d9\u05e2\u05d6\u05e8, \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d6, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05db&#8221;\u05d7, \u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05d9\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2 \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8, \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0 &#8211; \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05d5&#8217;<\/span><span>).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn19\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn19\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref19\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[19]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd, \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"> \u05e1&#8221;\u05e7 \u05d5<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn20\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn20\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref20\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[20]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc \u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d4, \u05e7\u05d9\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9\u05d9\u05df, \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d3, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05d3<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn21\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn21\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref21\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[21]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05ea\u05dc\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1\u05d1\u05dc\u05d9, \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05e1\u05d5\u05d8\u05d4, \u05d3\u05e3 \u05de&#8221;\u05d7, \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn22\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn22\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref22\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[22]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><span> <\/span>&#8220;<\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8\u05d9 \u05e7\u05dc\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9 \u05de\u05e9\u05ea\u05de\u05e2\u05d9?&#8221; \u2013 \u05ea\u05dc\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d1\u05d1\u05dc\u05d9, \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05e8\u05d0\u05e9 \u05d4\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4, \u05d3\u05e3 \u05db&#8221;\u05d6, \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn23\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn23\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref23\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[23]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> <span><span> <\/span><\/span>From a letter sent to Rabbi Avraham David Horowitz (chief Rabbi of Strasburg, and later a leader in the Eidah HaChareidit). Referenced in:<span> <\/span>(<span lang=\"HE\">\u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05e9\u05e8\u05d9\u05d3\u05d9 \u05d0\u05e9, \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e7\u05db\u05d0, \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05e9\u05e6\u05d3: &#8220;\u05d5\u05d0\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d0\u05e4\u05e9\u05e8 \u05dc\u05ea\u05e8\u05e5 \u05d1\u05d3\u05d5\u05d7\u05e7 \u05e9\u05d7\u05d1\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3\u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d0\u05e0\u05d9&#8221;<\/span><span>).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn24\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn24\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref24\"><\/a><span><span> <\/span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[24]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05d8\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d5\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05df \u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da, \u05d0\u05d1\u05df \u05d4\u05e2\u05d6\u05e8, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05db&#8221;\u05d0. \u05d4\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05e0\u05e7\u05d8 \u05d1\u05dc\u05e9\u05d5\u05df &#8220;\u05d0\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e9\u05de\u05d5\u05e2 \u05e7\u05d5\u05dc \u05d4\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05d4&#8221; <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u2013 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d4, \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05db&#8221;\u05d0,<\/span><span lang=\"HE\"> \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d1.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn25\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn25\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref25\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[25]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><span> <\/span>\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3, \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05dd, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn26\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn26\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref26\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[26]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> (<span lang=\"HE\">\u05e9\u05d3\u05d9 \u05d7\u05de\u05d3, \u05de\u05e2\u05e8\u05db\u05ea \u05d4\u05e7\u05d5\u05e3, \u05db\u05dc\u05dc \u05de&#8221;\u05d1 (\u05db\u05e8\u05da \u05d4&#8217; \u05e2\u05de&#8217; 282<\/span>). The author of the <em>Sedei Chemed<\/em> notes the legitimacy of the standpoint of the <em>Divrei Chefetz<\/em>, yet advises stringency nevertheless.<span lang=\"HE\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn27\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn27\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref27\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[27]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> The full text of the letter can be found in (<span lang=\"HE\">\u05e9\u05d5&#8221;\u05ea \u05e9\u05e8\u05d9\u05d3\u05d9 \u05d0\u05e9, \u05d7\u05dc\u05e7 \u05d0, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e7\u05db&#8221;\u05d0, \u05e2\u05de\u05d5\u05d3 \u05e9\u05e6&#8221;\u05d3<\/span><span>). It is worthwhile to read the continuation.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn28\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn28\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref28\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[28]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\">\u05e8\u05d0\u05d1\u05d9&#8221;\u05d4 \u05d7&#8221;\u05d0 &#8211; \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05e2&#8221;\u05d5 \u05d5\u05ea\u05e7\u05e6\u05d9\u05e8 \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05d5 \u05d0\u05e3 \u05de\u05d5\u05d1\u05d0\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1\u05de\u05e8\u05d3\u05db\u05d9, \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea, \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 &#8220;\u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05de\u05ea\u05d5&#8221; \u05e8\u05de\u05d6 \u05e4.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"ftn29\">\n<p class=\"MsoFootnoteText\"><a name=\"_ftn29\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Dov\/My%20Documents\/Torah\/R%20Bigman%20-%20Kol%20BIsha%20Translation.doc#_ftnref29\"><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span><span><span class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span>[29]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span> <\/span><span lang=\"HE\"><span> <\/span>\u05e1\u05e4\u05e8<span> <\/span>\u05d7\u05e1\u05d9\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd, \u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u05ea\u05e8\u05d9&#8221;\u05d3<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A New Analysis of \u201cKol B\u2019Isha Erva\u201d (the voice of a woman is nakedness) HaRav David Bigman Trans. Yedidya Schwartz There is no prohibition whatsoever of innocent singing; rather, only singing intended for sexual stimulation, or flirtatious singing, is forbidden. 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